Foods to avoid

[Admin]

The generally accepted list is:
Beer and alcoholic beverages.
Anchovies
Sardines in oil, fish roes, herring
Yeasts
Organ meat (liver, kidneys, sweetbreads)
Legumes (peas and dried beans)
Meat extracts, consomme, gravies.
Mushrooms, spinach, asparagus, cauliflower.

HOWEVER, this study (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/350/11/1093http://) found spinach did not increase the risk. They concluded that:Higher levels of meat and seafood consumption are associated with an increased risk of gout, whereas a higher level of consumption of dairy products is associated with a decreased risk. Moderate intake of purine-rich vegetables or protein is not associated with an increased risk of gout.

[bigbob102]

what drugs cause gout

[footbag_man]

Hi guys,

I though I would add this list of foods to this thread.

* High-purine foods:

o Anchovies.

o Roe (fish eggs).

o Fish such as herring and mackerel.

o Sardines.

o Scallops and mussels.

o Game meats, like goose, duck, and partridge.

o Organ meats: brains, heart, kidney, liver, and sweetbreads.

o Meat extracts.

o Mincemeat.

o Broth, bouillon, and consomme.

o Gravy.

o Yeast (baker's and brewer's) taken in the form of a supplement.

* Medium-purine foods:

o Fish and shellfish not on the high purine list above.

o Poultry foods not on the high purine list above.

o Beef, lamb, pork, and other red meats not on the high purine list above.

o Dried beans, peas, lentils.

o Asparagus.

o Mushrooms.

o Spinach.

o Cauliflower.

o Green peas.

o Oats and oatmeal.

o Wheat germ and bran.

o Whole grain breads and cereals.

* Low-purine foods and beverages:

o Eggs (limit to 3 to 4 per week).

o Nuts and peanut butter: limit if trying to lose weight.

o Low-fat and fat-free cheeses and ice cream.

o Pudding.

o Milk: skim or 1% (limit to 24 ounces per day).

o Cream-style soups made with low-fat milk.

o Soups made without meat extract or broth.

o Vegetables not on the lists above

o Fruits and juices.

o Breads and cereals: low fiber, white flour, or refined grain types.

o Pasta and macaroni.

o Rice.

o Soda.

o Coffee and tea.

o Gelatin.

o Cake and cookies in small amounts.

o Fats and oils in small amounts.

o Sugar, syrup, and other sweets in small amounts.

[JohnAnderson]

what drugs cause gout

I find that cold and flu medications like Ny-Quil and Robotussin trigger gout attacks. It may be the alcohol content, though I doubt it, or it may be the bodies hyped up immuno state. While recovering from a cold or flu I count myself 5 times more likely to experience a gout attack in this state.

[lamb curry]

i ordered a chicken curry from my local takeaway but they delivered a king prawn curry.Because i was hungry i took a gamble and ate the lot. ( i've avoided shellfish for many years because it triggers my gout)

Guess what , within 2 hours i had a massive attack , the biggest attack at the time ( been a sufferer for 10 years ).

For the first 10 years it was in my right toe , now it was the same symptoms but in my toe , ankle and knee. I couldn't bend my knee or walk even to the toilet.

Normally it lasts for 4 to 6 days but this attack lasted 2 whole weeks.



AVOID ALL SHELL FISH !!!!!!

[azzare57]

i ordered a chicken curry from my local takeaway but they delivered a king prawn curry.Because i was hungry i took a gamble and ate the lot. ( i've avoided shellfish for many years because it triggers my gout)

Guess what , within 2 hours i had a massive attack , the biggest attack at the time ( been a sufferer for 10 years ).

For the first 10 years it was in my right toe , now it was the same symptoms but in my toe , ankle and knee. I couldn't bend my knee or walk even to the toilet.

Normally it lasts for 4 to 6 days but this attack lasted 2 whole weeks.



AVOID ALL SHELL FISH !!!!!!


You can enjoy ALL SEAFOOD n AMB MEAT if you taken WILD HORSE MILK as your suppliment foods............

[lamb curry]

What is wild horse milk ?

[F.U Gout]

So let me get a better understanding from the list above.

Stay away from High Purine types of foods....makes sense...
But Low Purine foods to take in moderations....?

I may have answered my own question but just want to be sure as there is a lot of items in the Low Purine list I either stopped eating(whole eggs) as I know cause my attacks ..but other items that I consume quite frequently..

[Bheart74]

High levels of purine in the following foods and should be avoided:

1. Pork
2. Chicken
3. Bacon
4. Beef
5. Goose
6. Cod
7. Salami
8. Herring
9. Veal
10. Pepperoni
11. Turkey
12. Sausage
13. Crab
14. Scallops
15. Salmon
16. Haddock
17. Cakes
18. Mussels
19. Mackerel
20. Trout
21. Yeast
22. Consomme
23. Gravies
24. Cream
25. Pastries
26. Doughnuts
27. Salad dressing
28. Whole Milk
29. Clams

[HATEgoutx20]

Hello all, :( sigh.
I am 20 yrs of age and i have recently learned of my gout symptoms probly a few months ago.
but I have a question if someone can help me please.
Can I take AMPLIFIED WHEYBOLIC EXTREME 60tm (Protein Shake/ Supplement) ???

[Bheart74]

Hello all, :( sigh.
I am 20 yrs of age and i have recently learned of my gout symptoms probly a few months ago.
but I have a question if someone can help me please.
Can I take AMPLIFIED WHEYBOLIC EXTREME 60tm (Protein Shake/ Supplement) ???

Hi,

I'm not truly sure what the affects will be if you try it but increasing your protein intake is not a good thing when you suffer from gout. I would talk to your family physician first and get their opinion about using a protein supplement.

Question: why "AMPLIFIED WHEYBOLIC EXTREME 60tm". Isn't that GNC's brand? Their has to be other reputable brand names out there (ex. BSN, EAS) that just focus on a Protein Supplements, that's of higher quality, if you were going to use one.

Good Luck

[HATEgoutx20]

ok, i will do that. thank you for your concern sir.

[Ohithurtssomuch]

The few things that I found that trigger my gout attacks . Sunflower seeds(salted) I used to chew on 1 bag a day for years. After yrs I had 4 flare -ups with-in 6 months then I qiut the sunflower seeds and now my flare-up accounts has lessen, one last year. One time seafood but I have eaten seafood since and no problems. Beer drinking, but I did drink 26 cans in 8 hours. Chicken gizzards,braunschweiger but I over indulged. If I eat these moderately no pain and sometimes when I eat a beefsteak or hamburger my big toe throbs some. This is all that I have found out that triggers my gout attacks. I quit beer drinking 2 yrs ago, I needed to quit anyway so a good excuse to quit.

[Enlight]

Just wondering about Spinach? I can only fine a basic list, but when avoiding spinach should this be raw and cooked or just cooked?

Thanks

[Ohithurtssomuch]

Why do I like the veggies that are the worst for gout? I like spinach and cauliflower the veggies I am not suppose to eat. It's hard to find what food I'm suppose to eat. I have diverticulosis too. Not suppose to eat green veggies. I gave up on worrying what to eat for my diverticulosis its been 2 years since my diverticulitis attack. Now I'm worrying about what to eat for gout. I'm starting to take allopurinol daily, I really don't want to but I never want to get an attack in my knee again.:(

[LiLinsane]

Hahahaha, sounds like...
Why does my gout hurt with the foods I like! why cant it be the stuff i don't eat.

I think everybody with gout is looking at the list and saying...
SHIT this is all the food i like to eat.. wtf am i supposed to eat now.

Hippie diet for everybody!

[c matthews]

My conclusion , having avoided certain foods that are high in purines etc , is that gout affects us all in different ways , and there is no one sure cure . I eat and drink alcohol in moderation , and to date my gout has not flared up . I do take Apple Cider vinegar daily , so whether that helps is open to question ?

[hyperuric]

Your results may vary, what's good for the goose will kill the gander...

All that I've read and all I've been recommended has ALL BEEN CONTRADICTORY. Everybody is different, but most of the information provided on the internet and through the physicians is still based on old wives tales. Seems there are no "sure things," and tests continually come up inconclusive after becoming "absolute."

HATEgoutx20 - I used to take protein supplements for bodybuilding that were made in a reputable lab. Purines and anything thought to cause rise in uric acid were removed or lessened whenever possible. I had to quit all supplements because of tests, and I had better results eating whole foods. All the big marketed brands are junk and have NO CONTROL over consistency, and therefore probably don't meet the standards they claim 100% of the time. Or any of the time. Like fast food restaurants and their fat/calorie claims. Avoid GNC brands.

Some of my findings:

Cherries - no on the cherries, especially dried, the juice is fine (so far).

Bacon - is actually low in purines and fat if fried crisp and drained of grease. Ham and canadian bacon is not, however.

Tuna - depends on the part of the fish. Most of the stuff in the cans is mystery meat.

Tilapia - depends on where the fish lived. Most is farm-raised, and for some reason is higher in purines.

AVOID ALL SHELLFISH. I'm sure this has been mentioned before. The results are almost immediate for me, even if the dish has shrimp and I seperate it out.

Red Meat - eat organic, grass-fed beef. Limit, of course. Make sure you know where it comes from and that you can recognize the cut; there is a practice of "glueing pieces" into steak form that seems to have slipped under the FDA and USDA radars, and this enzymatic compound is VERY TOXIC.

Greens and what are miss-named letuce (red-leaf, kale, endive, escarole) - AVOID AT ALL COSTS. Not a bash against soul food, but there is a reason that people who eat it have problems, even though they cut down on the fatty-cholesterol food and only eat GREENS. Iceberg lettuce is okay so far.

Spinach - still undecided on this. I think it's cooked to avoid, but I've been avoiding fresh also. Avoid glutamine supplements too.

Berries, espescially cranberries - AVOID these. If it doesn't grow on a tall tree, don't eat it. Black pepper is a berry, not a pepper.

Eggs and "egg substitutes" - limit eggs AND egg whites. AVOID substitutes.

Nuts, seeds, and lentils - AVOID. Still not sure about almonds.

Soy products - AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

Yeast - NO NO NO NO NO NO!

Oats, rice, and whole grains - I am still crying over this one!

Gluten-free foods - just don't buy into these if you don't have to, and make sure you read the ENTIRE PACKAGE.

Processed foods, claimed to be "HEALTHIER" - AVOID THIS BS!

Hydrogenated, crap you cannot pronounce - AVOID

Sugar substitutes and high-frutose corn syrup - AVOID.

Coffee, tea, soda - Limit. I know, I know, every list says these are okay. Dehydration could be a major key in uric acid accumulation, and these contain acids that the body can't convert.

Spicy foods, peppers - limit or avoid. Another tearjerker for me! BOOOOOO!

ORGANIC - mostly a tag, and priced like a scam. If it is not FRESH, AVOID IT!

Dieting, especially crash and starvation diets are BAD. Expect another gout attack. Eat sensibly, lots of small meals all day. Your body has defense mechanisms and will resort to damage and self-destruction in order to save itself.

I'm sure there's more I forgot. It is not my intent to rewrite the book, but to dispell myths and add facts wherever possible, and hopefully help out people who are lost, like myself, to get the appropriate treatment. I bet there are those who never even had gout and are being treated because it's the new pharma FAD, and it is either giving them gout symptoms or causing other problems.

SO, WTF CAN WE EAT?!!!

[tonyccc]

I have had gout for years, and tried just about everything without success.I reduced meat to, minimum once a week, stopped alcohol altogether.I was having LOTS of fruit and vegetables and my gout was worsening.Finally I have read something about Excessive fructose increasing uric acid.I experimented reducing my fruit intake to 2 a day, and bingo within days I saw a dramatic improvement

[c matthews]

I accept that reducing your fructose has worked for you . It appears that gout affects us all in differenet ways , and we really need to find out how to prevent it for us only . I drink alcohol , lots of fruit , but no seafood or meat more than once a week . That works for me , with ACV daily.

[Alistair]

I think wine and bear is a dangerous food for our health.
There are lot of problems on our body.

[tonyccc]

You are probably right, but if you take away meat, fish,fructose,beer and wine what is there left?
Not much so we will probably die of starvation.

[Bheart74]

Beer, pop, anything high in protein will get you. Everything else is ok. Wine is ok every now and then.

[tonyccc]

Forget,purine rich foods,forget meat, forget fish, forget alcohol,being the cause of your gout.The real culprit as I
found out after years of testing is FRUCTOSE.Try and reduce or eliminate that and your gout problems will be over.
You will be grateful to me for giving you this information.your doctors might disagree but what do you have to lose,
trying it for a couple of weeks.For me it worked wonders,after suffering from gout for more than 10 years.

[c matthews]

but Fructose is in most foods , even in fruit though in small doses

[tonyccc]

Experiment for a few days it is not a big sacrifice to make,and then you decide if t is worth while.If your fruit intake is small ignore it, but watch out for sodas with HFCS and cakes though.

[junestar87]

You should avoid some food example internal organs, beef, soy...access to benhgout.vn to have more information. Good luck!

[hyperuric]

I'm going to add a few things to share with others, as well as for my own reference.

Cilantro (coriander)
Generic Benadryl - not entirely sure yet, but this was the only variation before this last flare-up. Somebody told me, and I think I read on here too, that Nyquil was a trigger.
Non-dairy creamer - it was too late when I noticed!
High-fructose corn syrup - Can't stress this one enough.
Seems that grass-fed beef has little risk for flare-ups.
Almonds seem to be working.
Cherry juice is okay and might actually be helping, but whole cherries and dried cherries are out for me.
Black beans and kidney beans seem to be low-risk, even when I made the "chili" with a pound of rendered bacon. Pinot and refried beans are still a no-no.
Watch your electrolytes, especially potassium - I ended up in the ER because my potassium dropped too low. Colcrys was suspect, as well as overhydration from severe diarrhea.
ONE medium shrimp had me in pain within an hour or so.
PEANUTS AND PEAS ARE BAD!
Yeast - Torula yeast and yeast extract are the new MSG - AVOID LIKE ZOMBIE PLAGUE!!! (it's derived from fungus that grows on pidgeon feces - yeah, that'll make you think twice!!)
Apparently, people are making flatbread with yeast now - ARRRGH!!!!
Some teas are bad, especially instant powder
Coffee is okay if you don't dehydrate yourself


READ YOUR LABELS!!!

[gracei]

footbag_man Thanks for the addition anyway.. It help a lot so that we can be aware of those foods.

[gracei]

I have some to shared also.. Foods that are high in purine levels

(up to 1,000 mg per 3.5 ounce serving)

*Anchovies
*Brains
*Gravies
*Kidneys
*Liver
*Sardines
*Sweetbreads

(5-100 mg per 3.5 ounch serving)
*Asparagus
*Bacon
*Beef
*Bluefish
*Bouillon
*Calf tongue
*Carp
*Cauliflower
*Chicken
*Chicken soup
*Codfish
*Crab
*Duck
*Goose
*Halibut
*Ham
*Kidney beans
*Lamb
*Lentils
*Lima beans
*Lobster
*Mushrooms
*Mutton
*Navy beans
*Oatmeal
*Oysters
*Peas
*Perch
*Pork
*Rabbit
*Salmon
*Sheep
*Shellfish
*Snapper
*Spinach
*Tripe
*Trout
*Tuna
*Turkey
*Veal
*Venison

It's in alphabetical order.
Please be guided for the amount of serving that are about you ate.

[tambra77]

ok i'm new to gout attacks.. had my first one a year ago.. thought i had flesh eating virus... seriously.. went to the ER and they said GOUT.. I have lupus so long term steroid use for the past 20 years. this can't go away.. so i've got to figure out other ways to reduce UA in my system. I'd like to do this naturally without pills, but this past week I finally understood what everyone refers to about the pain. I was in bed for 2 weeks, crying most every night with no sleep. REALLY bad for the lupus.. my concern is WTF do I eat? i'm scared to eat anything.. I've had oatmeal for every meal for two weeks... i don't have anything else in the house that i'm supposed to eat and so much pain that i'm avoiding the food i do have available. can't drive yet as it is my driving foot effected. HELP please with a list of acceptable foods? i'm really confused..