Gout and Psoriasis

[daddyt12345]

anyone had this combination. I am currently suffering from my longest gout attack and at the same time the most severe psoriasis flare that i have had. Is this unique? Has anyone seen information linking the two?

[Crystal lyn]

I was just thinking about this. I had some eczema type rash on my right hand right before my left toe started hurting. An anti-fungal cream(basically oil of oregano and orange oil) always gets rid of it for me. Some people believe the two go hand in hand. I never eat anything corn but for two days right before my first gout attack on my toe, I ate a lot of corn chips(nachos). Coincidence? I don't know but corn is known for it's fungal poisons!! I know one person who develops sinus infections after eating corn. Chronic sinus infections are 99% fungal according to the Mayo Clinic. Just some thoughts....

[bertmiddleton]

This is a new one on me but I do have some curiosity about it. What seems to have put my gout behind me is treating it like an autoimmune disorder. Thinking "cellular" and cleaning up the cell walls for the cellular absorption of nutrients and cellular release of acid waste. Antioxidants clean up the Free Radical Damage on the cell walls and let the flow happen both ways more easily. What I've come to understand is that Psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder and 10% of people with Psoriasis develop Psoriatic Arthritis. Eat more antioxidant foods and find ways to change you (uric) acidic state to a more alkaline one.

[Gouty Z]

@bert. I know you posted a long time ago, but I just joined because I think I am experiencing the same phenomena. in advance of my first attacks, I would experience itching and scaling inside my belly button. now, while my gout is much better through exercise and diet, I still have occassional flare-ups which are not nearly as painful as before. However, accompanying these flare-ups is what looks to be small patches of psoriasis.

Have you gone any further and found anything that works?

[bertmiddleton]

@Gouty Z No I haven't had anything like that come up. I've had trouble with herpes/shingles on my ass in conjunction with my attacks in the past - I chalked it up to some what of a warning system: every time I got the shingles, an attack was soon to follow. If fits with what I learned in the book Alkalize or Die. Good luck! :cool:

[podagra]

Unless a doctor found sodium urate crystals in the joint, you are much more likely to be suffering from psoriatic arthritis than from gout, which almost never conicides with psoriasis.

[Berberie]

Unless a doctor found sodium urate crystals in the joint, you are much more likely to be suffering from psoriatic arthritis than from gout, which almost never conicides with psoriasis.

Are you saying that psoriatic arthritis or gout almost never coincides with psoriasis??? If you are saying that it is gout I have to disagree with you there........ most dermatologists will tell you that there is a link between the 2. Unfortunately people who have psoriasis can suffer from both forms of arthritis at the same time as though psoriasis in all it's glory is not enough to have to deal with!!! Now that being said, psoriatic arthritis has in the past been misdiagnosed as gout due to the fact it can also result in increased levels of uric acid in the blood hence the need to see an actual rheumatologist for a correct dianosis.

Psoriasis obviously is an over production of skin cells, over production of any cells within the body make the kidneys work harder to break them down and here is the believed link between gout and psoriasis and the increase in uric acid production.

I am a female in my 40s, I have had psoriasis since the age of 3 (unusually young age) and bouts of gout from about 18/19. At the moment I'm having the most prolonged attack of gout which I've ever had. I believe in part it may be due to an increase in psoriasis last year as it was pretty stressful......... this attack began the weekend before Christmas and it's now the 23rd of February. During that period there have been some periods where the pain has been manageable but the last 4 weeks it's been impossible, I'm tearing my hair out. Have been on colchicine, arcoxia and I'm watcing my diet, drinking plenty (I only drink water anyway) and taking Montmorency cherry capsules.

Best treatment I have ever found for both was pregnancy as I was psoriasis free during the 9 months and for sometime after, and not a twinge in any joint (even though I gave up my Allopurinol during that time). Lol obviously I'm not recommending you become pregnant as for one simple reason most of you appear to be men :D! It does make you wonder though why psoriasis recedes during pregnancy. But also it pointed out to me that when I was clear of psoriasis I also was gout free. :confused:

[podagra]

1) Psoriasis coincides much more often with psoriatic arthritis than with gout.

2) Gout is extremely rare in 18 year old boys, much more so in girls (fewer than 1 in a million). Unless there is lead toxicity, gout involves iron accumulation and most 18 yeat old girls are iron deficient (far from having excess iron). The only cases I have seen of excess iron in 18 year old girls is when they also have hereditary hemochromotasis (HH), one of the most common hereditary diseases that results in iron accumulation. If you do not have HH or lead accumulation (plumbism) you're extremely unlikely to have had gout at 18 and your doctor should take some fluid from a swollen joint during a supposed gout attack in order to find uric acid crystals (clearly visible under the microscope) and be able to diagnose with 100% certainty that it is gout.
A ferritin test, a serum iron test and a cytometry will reveal HH (which by the way causes arthrtis in many cases). Blood urea, creatinine and uric acid would also help me to determine the extent of kidney damage. Liver enzymes (after 2 weeks without any booze) would help to establish the extent of liver damage if there is HH.
By the way, pregnancy reduces iron overload so it would ameliorate HH. On the other hand pregnancy increases the load on the kidneys, urate production and impairs circulation, so if it were gout, it may have been exacerbated. Where do you get your attacks?
For Gout and HH read this
http://www.goutonline.net/showthread.php?t=10755

for factors that trigger gout read this and see if it fits.
http://www.goutonline.net/showthread.php?t=10782

take care